You know, I always chuckle when people say religion is the root of all evil. Atheists like to talk about how only the religious are motivated to ideological violence, despite all the evidence from Russia during the last century that it isn't the case. Whether this fits into either of the two narratives I do not know, what I do know is that unreasoning hate, no matter who it may be directed at, turns men into monsters.
On Sunday afternoon, shortly after one o' clock in Colorado Springs Colorado, Matthew Murray walked into the New Life Church and began killing. An apparently hate filled man who had never gotten over the perceived rejection of being left off of a missionary mission The New Life Church had sponsored 5 years ago, Murray developed an intense hatred for Christianity and Christians in the interim. Whether this hatred was motivated by sour grapes, or whether Murray was simply a man with hate in his heart looking for a target we may never know. What we do know is that his hatred turned him into a monster who may well have killed hundreds, had he not been stopped by Jeanne Assam.
Jeanne, a former Minneapolis police officer who used her personal firearm to end Murray's murderous spree, was a volunteer member of the New Life Church's security force. A apparently deeply committed christian who had been fasting for three days at the time of the incident, she felt she had been placed there by god to protect her fellow parishioners. A 14 year veteran of the Minneapolis police force, she also credits her savior for a steady hand and the courage to do what needed to be done. Regardless of what your views of her religious affiliation may be, there is no doubt this woman acted coolly, and decisively in the face of a crisis that would have frozen many.
In many ways, I think this story is just beginning, and that it will dominate discussions for a long time to come. There simply so much "grist for the mill" as they say, and this story slots so neatly into the narrative of the culture wars that it couldn't have been written any better in a script. A gunman, filled with anti-christian hate, stopped by a women with a CCP. What major issue in American life doesn't this story touch on? Feminism, the second amendment, the fourth amendment, the place of religion in society, the effect of religion on society. There's enough here that everyone will undoubtedly filter the incident through their own perceptions, and use it to support whatever they supported in the first place.
I am no different. The fact that, once again, a spree killer was stopped by a private citizen with a CCP reinforces, at least for me, why we need the second amendment. Naturally those who are predisposed to an anti-gun narrative will see Murray access to a gun as proof of why we need more gun control. Feminists will see this as further proof women are equally as capable as men in dangerous and violent situations, while Christians will see this as further proof of an ongoing attack on Christianity, and atheists will see this as further proof of the pernicious effect of organised religion. I think, that as coverage of this story unfolds, this incident will become a type of Rorschach blot for people's own preconceived notions, even more so than any other. Some will undoubtedly try to use it to score points for their cause, and given the nature of the events I suspect the debates will be quite heated. And perhaps, that's how we can finally come to terms with, and extract some small amount of good out of this horrid event. Perhaps if we can, just this once, put aside our preconceptions, our talking points, and our stock rebuttals, and really discuss where we are going right, and wrong, as a society, then maybe, just maybe, something good can come from this.
I hope, but I do not expect.
Tuesday, December 11, 2007
Anti-Christian murderer kills four, stopped by gun-nut fundie on a mission from god.
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5 comments:
"I always chuckle when people say religion is the root of all evil. Atheists like to talk about how only the religious are motivated to ideological violence"
Who actually says that? Or are you just generalizing and can't provide examples?
I've heard atheists make claims like that. Often `born again' atheists; you know ;people who were raised badly by religious fanatics who then reble against it? Heck I was one of them for a while. RRM could have clarified with a `some', but that's not the way he rolls and I don't specific examples are required for the point; he's not writing an essay; its a blog.
Hey, RMM, I just wanted to say that reading some of the conversations you've been having with other posters Im getting a better idea of the reasons for your inconsistencies. Doesn't mean I dont still think your a dick, but I know it's mutual, so thats fine.
I still think you should learn to insult a person directly, and not rely on using steriotypes etc; its just a skill thing; I know you've got it in you to be an arsehole without being a prick.
And yeah, I will bring up the `mongloid' term again. Folks with Down Syndrown get enough shit in their day to day lives without old slang terms still getting bandied about; heck babies are still regularly tested for the condition as an excuse to abort. It's a beautiful thing that most of the time they've the attitude to deal with it and keep smiling, so how but that as an thing worthy of your `respect'? And no, it's not the same as fag or nigger or bitch or whore or redneck or whatever else you wana try out. I know you don't wana play the `Ive got my own problems' card. Either man up and dont do it again, or give me a damn good argument.
Plus, to respond to a newpost of yours, I really do believe in freedom of speech, but that includes the right for me to call you a pussy and a waste of space and energy when you squander your rights and freedoms on unnesasary discourteousness. I wouldn't want it to mean governmetn invervention. But I wouldn't have a problem with it meaning the blogger folks shutting you down if you ever broke their rules, cause this is their forum, not yours. When you get banned from message boards, that's not censorship, it's people excercising the flip side of freedom of speech; freedom to ignore!
Sorry about the off topic posts other readers; I just couldn't be arsed switching from thread to thread.
And yeah, I will bring up the `mongloid' term again. Folks with Down Syndrown get enough shit in their day to day lives without old slang terms still getting bandied about;
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I grew up a few doors down from a group home for tards. Worked there as a kid. Tards are great, a damn site better than most. But whether you call them, devolpmentally disabled, mentally handicapped, or identify them by the specific condition, it all boils down to the same thing. Sweet as sugar and dumber than a box of rocks.
And besides mongolid just sounds better. Reminds me of flash gordon.
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Plus, to respond to a newpost of yours, I really do believe in freedom of speech, but that includes the right for me to call you a pussy and a waste of space and energy when you squander your rights and freedoms on unnesasary discourteousness. I wouldn't want it to mean governmetn invervention. But I wouldn't have a problem with it meaning the blogger folks shutting you down if you ever broke their rules, cause this is their forum, not yours. When you get banned from message boards, that's not censorship, it's people excercising the flip side of freedom of speech; freedom to ignore!
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Sounds about right.
Cool. Glad we understand each other.
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