Wednesday, October 24, 2007

I'm back in the saddle girl, so go get your feet in those stirrups!

Hello to all the lucid, lithuim loving lunatics who rightfully revere the Rational MadMan. I know its a been a while and y'all probably though big daddy had run off and left you and momma in the lurch while I frittered away my ducets on cheap women and easy booze. Well shame on you, you should know I aint no deadbeat dad by now, Ive been doing some traveling and just got back a few days ago. When poppas a rolling stone you gotta be prepared to get your wisdom on the run y'know?

Anyhow in my absence theres been some new voices ringing in on the ongoing war between the forces of light and the vaginal hive mind/eunuch underground coalition, some minor battles have been fought, and some all-new, all-different feminist lunacy has reared its illogical little misandrist mug.

Lets get cracking witht he attacking shall we?


First of all Im sure we've all heard about the whole New Avengers # 35 hoo-haa. And if you haven't then how the hell did you manage to navigate the comicnets with a blindfold on?


To recap in the latest issue of New Avenger The Hood gave a vicious and brutal beatdown to Tigra. Brian Micheal Bendis then went on Newsaram and talked about how no-one had complained. So everyone started complaining.




Surprisingly however there was one woman who got it, and I want to extend some richly deserved applause to Cheryl Lynn for being the only cell in the vaginal hive-mind with a thought of her own.


Suffice it to say I disagree witht the vaginal hive-mind ( what a surprise eh) in point of fact I figure if the vagi-hive had any actual mind to it, they'd all be jsut as pleased as punch by NA #35. Yes Tigra got beat down, owned, punked, straigth jacked, fubar'd or knocked the fuck out depending on your particular cultural lexicon. But she got jacked like a man. There was no sexual componant, no hint of rape, no use of sex specific insults, and the artwork was even fairly unsexualised for a comic. It was really nothing more than a standard "villain gets revenge on hero while showing his badassitude" plot and the fact that the usually present sexual component was missing shows that Tigra was being treated just likea male character. People try to make something out of her not fighting back and her clothes being ripped off during the beat down, but lets face it, one sided beat downs that end with the hero in a torn and tattered costume are pretty common aint they?
What isn't so common is for a female hero to recieve a beat down without it being sexual. That honor is usually reserved for the guys. But as usual rather than recognising a feminst victory, the vagi-hive is determined to snatch defeat from the jaws of triumph, and to piss off any rational human beings while they're at it.


Tell you what, you take a look at the pages and tell me what you think.














































Now, Was shes beat down like a man or like a chick?

At about the same time as Marvel got on the feminazi shitlist DC managed to piss off a whole herd of Gyinoceroi, with JLA #14.




Now of course the meme is "the only reason to have WW, BC, and Vixen featured so promonantly in the shot is cause "DC are teh mysogonist sexist haterz!!!!"

Naturally the thought that Superman and Black Lighting would be more worried by the implications of what the guys are doing to the Mamary trio never entered their little estrogen poisoned minds. The fact is, Men are pretty much programmed to respond a certain way to a women in peril, and Luthor knows this. He admitted he wanted Superman mad. Now ask yourself this, what'll make superman madder than kidnapping his friends, putting WW, BC and Vxen on display like pieces of meat, and laughing about it. I mean it just seems to me that Luthor has Supermans psychology pretty well tagged. Thats what I call writing a complex and beleivable character. And consideing luthor is the same guy who always has a strong woman in a servile position (can you say mercy?) its also perfectly in character. One distinction most gynoceroi can't make is between a sexist story and a sexist character. Of course many seem to think that its OK for a villain to be a thief, murderer, psycho, baby killer, or genocidal maniac, but portraying a villain as a sexist? Oh no, thats crossing the line.

Sigh...... It doesnt make anysense to me either. But then what do I know? I don't worship at the alter of Ms. Andry.

And then Of course DC went and did it again, enraging the gynoceroi even further with "Death of the New Gods #1"

Ragnell the large was so incensed she needed not one, but two posts to contain all the bile it brought up, and SallyP over at green lanterns butt forever chimes in with the exact same points, while Filby Staples vented his spleen in true eunuch underground fashion, once again referencing the exact same points. What offense could be so great that every cell in the vagi-hive would instantly respond in one single unified voice?

Big Barda's death, and the manner of her death, (she died off panel, in the kitchen, without a fight.)

Of course it doesn't matter that all of the New Gods who have died in this stroyline died off-panel, without a fight. Lightray, Grayven, Sleez, etc. Even though the male New Gods got killed the EXACT SAME WAY its still proof of mysogony and sexism. In fact the death of the other New Gods is just a red herring. It was all actually a calculated effort by Jim Starlin to piss of the femmes, I mean come on she dies in the KITCHEN! KITCHEN you get it? You know, near the refrigerator? As in WOMEN IN REFRIGERATORS!


Naturally the fact that Clark and Lois were coming over to dinner, that it was made clear that both Scott and Barda were preparing the food, and that she died in the exact same manner as every single other New God so far, means nothing. Actually thats all just evidence of how sneaky DC really is. You know this whole "Death of the New Gods storyline? Its really just an excuse to kill Big Barda. But dont tell anyone I told ya or they'll revoke my "evil masters of the mysogonistic comics book conspriacy cabal" membership card.



And in the continuing saga of the "Good Feminists" VS the "Bad Feminists" the war continues. You may remember I reported on and added a volley to the Opening Shots being fired by Vince Moore in in this post, and since then new voices have joined up and chosen sides. Big Mike not only fired a few shots of his, he even adapted one of my trademarked phrases to do it, While Boztopia commented in a similar vein, Lisa Fortuner, seemed to think that Comic Journalists should join into the star chamber mentality and go after "mysogonist creators" like they were Mike Nifong running for reelection. Lurker Without on the other hand weighed in by giving us a perfect example of what the whole war is about.

In other news, the rantist formally known as angryrantgirl decided to womyn about thirty year old comics, thus proving once again than when the vaginal hive-mind has nothing to womyn about, they can still find something, while the green lantern objectifying sallyP decided to simply moan all of the afore mentioned issues at once. Say what you will but you gotta respect and effecient use of bile eh? The kamisama on the other hand pointed out soemthing anyone with even a 1/5 of a brain woulda considered self evident, yet somehow sliped by the vagi-hive, along with the treatment of every other dead New Gods character judging fromt he comments on his blog. TheComicaztec pointed out soemthing everybody but minoritists see, and as usual their silence was deafening.

All in All its been a pretty eventful few weeks, with a lot of shrieking, and lot of shrill rhetoric. The estrogen floodwaters rose several feet, and Ms. Andry ran wild over the nets. But never fear, I have come to throw a lifeline of reason seasoned with testosterone to save you from drowning in the lake of the castratti. I will hand you ear plugs of ballsyness to protect you from the feminists siren's song of man hating rage, and a use a chocolate bar to distract Ms. Andry while we make our way into the high happy grunting ground where beautiful young maidens who've never been exposed to feminist fodder serve us ice cold beers carried in shapely arms which frame naked busoms. Follow the sound of my voice back to land of sanity, and all will be well, and all will be well, and all manner of things will be well.

Now I wanna make one last point before I put this post to bed. Theres a huge trend of misandry and a giganormous number of misconceptions in feminism and feminist thought in regards to the male libido. Talk to a few feminists and you'll find they think men should be ashamed of the way we look at women, of the way we think of women, and the way we talk about women. If we look at a woman and all we wanna do is have sex, then we're objectifying her. If an advertiser uses images of beautiful women to sell a product not only is that objectification, its also an attempt to control women by creating unreachable standards of beauty, therby reducing their self confidence. We're told that its Men's fault Women spend billion per year on cosmetics, pushup bras's, shoes, clothes and accessories and assorted other items. We're told that in effect, our libido, our sexuality, our desires are inherantly bad and must be suppresed in order to allow women to be equal. We're told that strip clubs, for example, objectify and use women. We're told that we should be ashamed for watching porn because it contributes to the image of women as sex objects. We're told we should be ashamed of "cheesecake" in comics, images we find attractitive and sexy are somehow incompatible and unecessary in an adventure story. We're told that if we really respect women we wont look at them as potential sexual partners, that we wont comment on their looks, or discuss those looks with other male friends, that we wont fantasize about them and that doing any of the things I've just mentioned is somehow mutually exclusive with respecting a woman as an individual.

The problem is, men dont work that way. Neither does equality. Like it or not, millions of years of evolution have programmed Men with one indisputible, undeniable, biological imperative. Its a simple voice, repeating the same simple message endlessly.

"BOY GO GET YOUR DICK WET!!!!!!!"

I dont care if your a liberal or a conservative, a fagela or a straight up manly man, you could be an east coast intellectual or a southern holy roller, you might be a president and you might be a pauper, but if you got a dick then that message is running through your head every single moment of every single day. Any woman, feminst or toherwise who doesn't understand this is starting out behind the 8-ball. Any theory of sexual interaction that deosn't take this into account is based on a false premise.

Women need to accept this. They need to acept that men and women have different ways of showing interest, lust, respect, admiration etc.

Mad Thinker Scott recently wrote about a study done which managed to piss off both Women and Men, for different reasons, because of the different way Men and Women interpet things. The problem with feminist theory is that, as the name suggests, it looks at everything from the Female, and only from the Female perspective. To a woman, who doesn't think of or interpert things the way a Man does; a guy whose only interest in her is sex is insulting her, because he's "not interested in her as a person". Since most women dont understand the appeal of sex with an anonymous partner, or why it appeals to men, she assumes his interest is disrespectful. Now the truth is, from the male perspective its not, its not meant to be, and if the exact same offer were made by her to him, hed see it as a validation of his manhood.

The problem is feminists want women to be free to "be who they are" but dont want men to be just as free. Feminists used to claim that "if you judge a woman on her abillity to act like a man dont be surprised when she comes out second" but they have now turned that standard on its head. Now unless a man acts like a woman, hes a mysogonist.

Try this experiment. Which of these two women, Laura, or Kara, is being treated as an equal by the men in the following scene's.

Jack, Dave, and Todd, are standign by the water cooler at work talking.

Jack- You fatboy, big T, you looking like the goodyear tire man, need to get your fat ass on the track.

Todd - Tell you what Jack-off, I get my aerobics in every night when your wife comes over for a taste of real manhood.

Jack - Please, doughboy, you wouldn't know real manhood if is shoved it up your ass.

Dave - did you just say you wanted to shove your "manhood" up todd's ass?

Laura walks up tot he cooler and gets some water

Laura - hello

Dave Hi laura, how are you today?

Laura - Im good thanks.

Jack - working hard?

Laura - not if I can help it?

Laura - Bye guys

As laura leaves Kara walks up to get a drink

Todd - hey hey sex queen, stop invading my dreams

Kara - todd, if I didnt youd still be a virgin and your wrists would the size of poeye's

Jack - ouch looks like the cats got her claws out today, I betetr run before she uses me as a scratchin post

Kara - You wish.

David, - he kara howd your date go last night you get laid?

Kara - nahh he was a nice guy but he just didnt do it for me

Todd - Ill do anything you want done sexy

Kara - Honey you aint got the stmina to get it started much less done.

Kara - well boys I gotta get back to work, afterall soomeone in this office has to work like a man.

So after reading those two encounters who did you think was being treated respectfully as an equal?

If you said Kara, congratulations, you have working brain cells.

I'm sure a lot of women, and a whole lot of feminists are thinking "this guys nuts", and you're right. I am nuts. I'm also making a point. The fact is the second conversation is representative of how men talk when we're alone. We insult each others masculinity, success in life, weight, looks, prowess with women, etc. Why? Who the hell knows? Its just the most common way most men bond that doesn't involve either alcohol or violence. And when we treat a woman the same way, it means we are treating her as an equal. No matter how "respectful" the conversation with laura may have seemed at first glance, what the men were really saying is "you're not one of us, you're not like us, and we dont respect you enough to talk to you like your a man" "whereas kara was told " your one of us, you fuck!"

Likewise if you have male friends, and they are "checking out" or "ranking" women, and they don't stop when you come over, thats a good sign. It means they respect you enough to behave honestly. You see most of us men spend the bulk of our lives hiding exactly what we think and feel from women, becasue we've learned that most simply aren't willing to accept what we really think. We know they will judge us. Unlike women, men understand that we are different, and we are willing to put up with all the weird shit women seem to think and feel, no matter how nuts they may be. We just know the feeling is not mutual.

The point is, if you really want true equality between the sexes; then you have to be willing to allow men to be men, and I doubt you feminists can handle that.

14 comments:

Anonymous said...

I've never come across someone so insecure about their own gender role.

Rational Mad Man said...

Thank You!!!!!


Best in Da Worllllllllddddda!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

cause real men whine about women on internet blogs lolzzzzzz

Ami Angelwings said...

I dun think that treating ppl any way they do not want to be treated is respectful tho. If a guy told you he didn't want you acting that way towards him (or if you go too far for example) wouldn't it be respectful to respect his wishes?

Sexism isn't about treating a whole group of ppl one way or another. You should treat people men and women alike differently depending on who they are, not WHAT they are.

It'd be just like saying that you should talk the same way to somebody who is not that educated as compared to somebody who is very well versed on a subject, and if the person who doesn't understand the subject needs help clarifying terms, well TOO BAD, b/c it would be disrespectful to treat them differently?

Every person is different, and you should respect how they like to be treated. Some people (men and women) like being treated the way you said you do to your friends and it would be disrespectful to treat them otherwise. Other people do not. You do not have to change HOW you treat them, but they do not have to feel gratified that you do not respect their wishes either. :\

The point is that you shouldn't see people as series of GROUPS but as people. :) You should not say that "I treat black people like white people, I am not racist". Simply by making that statement you are being racist, you are saying that there is a way you treat white people and that all black people will now be treated in the same uniform way. :(

Should nudists walk around naked in public b/c they do so with their friends? Should people who have anger problems or who are violent hit other people b/c that is just how they operate?

If some random person came up to you and flashed you b/c that is how they treat their friends and they're all happy with it, would you like that and feel respected?

Respect is a two way street, and both people involved must be comfortable with it, for it to be respectful. It is not respectful to do something YOU think is okay but other people are uncomfortable with. :\ That doesn't mean you can't (tho in the above cases that would be breaking the law) but just that it is impolite. :(

Ultimately tho, we're not all just groups.

Every person is different, it makes life way more complicated than grouping them, but I think that we should realize that we should respect every person as who they are, unique individuals, and not as part of some interchangeable homogenous group.

I'm not "just" a woman just as you're not "just" a guy. You aren't EVERY guy, and it would be disrespectful for me to treat you as nething other than an individual :)

Rational Mad Man said...

Ami, poor dear ami.
You missed the point completely.


That story wasn't about not treating people as individuals, it was about having the freedom to treat every person equally. It wasn't about imposing ourselves on others, it was about being free to be ourselves. It was about the fact that becasue of feminist ideology men feel obligated to treat women differently, becasue every time we treat them as equals we end up in sensitivity training.

Ami Angelwings said...

Then we agree :) I also said that you had the freedom to do that. I didn't miss the point at all XD I'm merely saying that you should also respect others :) I dun think that men should act in one way or another, whether by what other men believe they should act, or by what women believe they should act. But I think it's important for all ppl, men and women to respect how the other wants to be treated, but NOT to control how everybody as a group treats everybody as another group. :)

We are not groups ^_^ And I think we both agree on that :D

Anonymous said...

"Women need to accept this. They need to acept that men and women have different ways of showing interest, lust, respect, admiration etc."

You're not asking us to accept equality, or even difference. You're asking us to accept privilege.

In the case of comic books, you're asking us to accept that your need to see, say, Black Canary as SEXXXY should be considered before our need to see Black Canary portrayed as any other hero. If you saw Batman at the end of a long, hard fight, you wouldn't expect the image of him to look sexy - you would expect the image of him to give you some idea of the quality of the fight. Did it exhaust him? Anger him? Does he look tough and unfazed? Does he look beaten and injured? You wouldn't expect any of the poses that the artist considers to be kept within the bounds of 'what looks sexy?' So why should the same scene with Black Canary be limited to what looks sexy? Because you have declared that men have the biological need to see sexy women and that should preempt our need to see a neutreally treated female superhero.

Later, you give an example of guys having a conversation with two women. You say the better example of respect and equality is when the woman talks the way the men do, with constant sexual innuendo. My question again, is why? We live in a society with different types of people, and if guys talk differently than women, then why, if women make up half the world, should women start talking the way those guys do rather than the guys toning down their conversation a little? Because women "need to accept" that this is how men act, and need to change to make the guys more comfortable, rather than guys changing in any way to make the women more comfortable.

Once again, you're not talking about equality - you're talking about privilege. Women need to realize that the dick reigns over all and change their desires and their comfort levels to accept that rather than guys occasionally accepting that what their dicks want is not the most important factor in every situation.

Unknown said...

Wow, you sure have a low opinion of your own gender. I'm so sorry.

Rational Mad Man said...

In the case of comic books, you're asking us to accept that your need to see, say, Black Canary as SEXXXY should be considered before our need to see Black Canary portrayed as any other hero. If you saw Batman at the end of a long, hard fight, you wouldn't expect the image of him to look sexy - you would expect the image of him to give you some idea of the quality of the fight. Did it exhaust him? Anger him? Does he look tough and unfazed? Does he look beaten and injured? You wouldn't expect any of the poses that the artist considers to be kept within the bounds of 'what looks sexy?' So why should the same scene with Black Canary be limited to what looks sexy? Because you have declared that men have the biological need to see sexy women and that should preempt our need to see a neutreally treated female superhero.
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Why shouldnt it be?
Comics are unreal. A man can fly and shoot lasers from his eyes and thats OK. A guy can fight in a cpae cause it looks cool, even though its just as unrealtic as figthng in high heels, and thats OK. But BC looking good isn't? The point IM making is that these depcitions exist because we like them. WHo are you to tell us thats wrong? Who are you to say "that unrealism is OK but because IM offended by this unrealism it isn't".

You dont like seeing BC drawn that way, so what? Callinmg it a need, is ridiculous, neither of us have a need to see anything, But the fact is my desires for what i'd like to see from Black canary are just as valid as yours. I want to see a hot chick who looks good kiscking ass, you want to a "gender neurtral" protrayal, what makes your want more imprtant than mine?
You talk about privalege, Im talking about commerce. I buy comics becasue I like them. I like seeing BC in her fishnets, I like seeing wonder woman, I like seeing them save people, I like seeing them get saved, who the fuck are you to tell me and all the other fans who enjoy what we are buying that we need to change it to cater toi you? And you think Im privaleged? WHat do you call it when you expect people to change what they like and enjoy based on your approval?
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Later, you give an example of guys having a conversation with two women. You say the better example of respect and equality is when the woman talks the way the men do, with constant sexual innuendo. My question again, is why? We live in a society with different types of people, and if guys talk differently than women, then why, if women make up half the world, should women start talking the way those guys do rather than the guys toning down their conversation a little? Because women "need to accept" that this is how men act, and need to change to make the guys more comfortable, rather than guys changing in any way to make the women more comfortable.

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WHy should we change? If we have to change to accomadate you then you arent our equals are you? We make changes to done down speech around children becasue they dont have the capacity to understand whats being said. Are you assuming women are children? WHy is it, that in order for women to achive this apparently illusive "equality" that everyone else has to change? Why is it that standards have to be lowered, speech has to be toned down, and behavior has to be modified?
Huh?
And We're the ones who are privaleged? The ones ho have to bend over backwards so as to not offend you delicate little sensibillities?
Its simply, you wanna be respected a an equal, dont go all weak sister anytime someone says soemthing off color.
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Once again, you're not talking about equality - you're talking about privilege. Women need to realize that the dick reigns over all and change their desires and their comfort levels to accept that rather than guys occasionally accepting that what their dicks want is not the most important factor in every situation.

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As opposed to what you really saying, "the vag reigns over all and in order to ensure us evil old men dont irritate the vag we have to ensure we we watch ourseles so as never ever to say anything which might upset or offend the vag"

What Im saying is that women have no more right to control how men speak, or think, than vice versa. However we arent trying to, y;all are. Everytimew a man is himself, we get a sexual harrasment suit, or get sent to sensitivity training cause you privaleged think skinned little dadies girls cant handle the fact that we dont talk the way your fantasies of us
want us to.

Hows about you stop trying to use your fucking fellings as an excuse for telling us what to do?

Anonymous said...

"Why shouldnt it be?
Comics are unreal. A man can fly and shoot lasers from his eyes and thats OK. A guy can fight in a cpae cause it looks cool, even though its just as unrealtic as figthng in high heels, and thats OK. But BC looking good isn't? "

No, BC looking good isn't unreal. However, when the main point of every panel with BC in it is her looking good, and the main point of every panel with Batman in it is to write an effective story with him as the subject - that is inequality. The privilege I'm talking about is you asking us to accept that female characters will be treated in limiting, and unequal ways compared to male characters.

In the second example, the privilege your asking us to accept is women putting up with conversation that makes them uncomfortable in the workplace rather than men realizing that there are two people in a conversation and that they need to compromise.

That being said - your cartoonish representation of men is completely at odds with every male friend I've ever had, every male relative I've ever had, and every male colleague I have ever worked with. I have to agree with the poster who said that you have an incredibly low opinion of your own sex.

Anonymous said...

RMM just wants all men and women to act like stereotypes from '50s sitcoms.

Marc Burkhardt said...

Hooray! I'm a "usual suspect!"

Rational Mad Man said...

No, BC looking good isn't unreal. However, when the main point of every panel with BC in it is her looking good, and the main point of every panel with Batman in it is to write an effective story with him as the subject - that is inequality.
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A) Batman looks cool in every panel doesnt he? In both situations the character is required to meet certain visual standards. For Batman its an agressive, hypermasculine standard, for BC its a sexy hyperfeminine standard, I fail to see a difference.
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The privilege I'm talking about is you asking us to accept that female characters will be treated in limiting, and unequal ways compared to male characters.
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Yeah cause theres a whole lot of male characters who are ugly right? Seriously, set aside those who's very concept is rooted in thier monstousness, such as ben grimm, and and tell me how many male characters are portrayed as less than attractive? Furthermore in what way is it "limiting"? The visual representation of BC is no way shape or form limits the overall prtrayal of the character. How does her looks have anything to do with the way she is written?
Finally, to claim privelege, when discussing consumer preference is ridicuolous. The fact is males make up well over 90% of comic book buyers. Why shouldnt the dominant demographic in the market expect to be catered to? Do men have a right to complian about the unrealsitc portrayal of men in romance novels?
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In the second example, the privilege your asking us to accept is women putting up with conversation that makes them uncomfortable in the workplace rather than men realizing that there are two people in a conversation and that they need to compromise.
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And what of the discomfort we feel when we are forced to act differently than is our nature to appease some thin skinned bitch who wants to sterilise the workplace? Why should the many have to change their behaviors to cater to the few? Im supposed to stop talking in a way thats comfortable because soemone else doesnt like it? Fuck you and the horse you rode in on. Y'all want to be equals in a world men made? Then dont ask us to change the fucking rules for you like your children.
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That being said - your cartoonish representation of men is completely at odds with every male friend I've ever had, every male relative I've ever had, and every male colleague I have ever worked with. I have to agree with the poster who said that you have an incredibly low opinion of your own sex.
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Yeah cause I care.

Rational Mad Man said...

Hooray! I'm a "usual suspect!"

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Its good to see you respect the signifgance of the honor I have bestowed upon you.